20:01~ 【インタビュワー】So what is now I know you shared this on linkedin Patty Galloway's graphic of like a creator business right, and how it is diversified and different parts of it. In your experience right now. Like. Is there a today, a classic model of creator business, like if there's a young creator they start, you know, making it, they get a million subs uh, is there a like okay here's how it works we're gonna get you some brand deals, we're gonna launch you know business with you. Is there... Is... Does that exist, or is it different for every creator?
Patty Galloway's graphic of like a creator business
パティ・ギャロウェイによるクリエイター・ビジネスの
収益構造のイメージ図
内容的に正しいとか、間違っているとか、
このイメージ図で語るのはあまり意味がない。
それより重要なのは、現在、クリエイター・ビジネスは、
これまでの経済(ビジネス)の常識では考えられなかった、
見たことがなかった、ありえなかったカタチで
新しい収益源を生み出していて、
直接的、あるいは間接的につながりのある
既存のビジネスの在り方を変えつつある、
ということです。
で、たぶん、クリエイターが生み出す
そういう新しいビジネスの広がりを、
より広く、大きく思い描けているかどうかが、
この新しいクリエイター・ビジネスで成功できるかどうかの差
になっている・・・という感じ?
20:33~ 【リードさん】I don't think it's different for every creator. I think if you're a youtuber right, now it kind of goes in the same line. It's like same with hiring right, it's like you usually hire an editor a thumbnail artist and a production person then a creative. It kind of works the same way.
Uh like just to say monetization is adsense usually comes first right
で、マネタイズ(収益化)は、通常、アドセンス(広告)が最初に来ます。
現在のクリエイター・ビジネスで、
最初のマネタイズ(収益化)は、通常、アドセンス(広告)
I've seen instances where apparel comes first if the content is too edgy to run ads.
コンテンツがエッジすぎて広告を掲載できない場合、アパレルが先になるケースもある。
But I would say, the majority of the time, adsense is the first revenue stream. The second revenue stream is almost always your first, second, third brand deal, right?
そういう背景もあって、この場面でリードさんも早々に「Usually people don't launch apparel before brands come into the fold.」(ブランドがスポンサーにつく前にアパレル(自前のグッズ、いわゆるMerch、マーチ)を立ち上げないのが普通です。)と言っていると思います。
Those brands can be affiliate deals. They could be base feed deals. So it's usually adsense brand sponsorships then apparel usually comes thirdwhere this gets interesting is like bubble four, five, six, seven right.
21:18~ I've seen like content syndication um other products and services like cpg, now we're getting into like paywall services likePatreon and fansly, and only fans and so.
And then there's another layer of this which is like twitch prime subs or youtube memberships but usually the first three are always adsense brand sponsorships, apparel very rarely
I could see a paywall service maybe coming first. but that you that person is usually just like i'm on patreon i'm not like a massive youtube creator right. so it's i would say for the most part at least everyone we've worked with that's been the exact same philosophy or the exact same revenue model yeah.
【リードさん】i mean it's like your audience is like me right or people that are in their 20s that want to be aspiring creators or maybe are creators that are growing
it feels to me like courses about content creation is like the one that sticks out the most i know you guys sold hats and they sold out instantly but that's like a.
"They have made their money from their hard seltzer brand, branded merchandise, and other business ventures. Kyle revealed in an interview that Happy Dad is worth around $250 million. Happy Dad has had incredible growth since its launch in 2021."
And now they sell all these like alcohol adjacent things like they sell the bottle openers they sell the beer pong like cups like they sell all that stuff